第 333 期:食品 52 和线性商务

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There have been few meaningful exits over 13 years. As such, questions surrounding the direct-to-consumer industry’s lack of exits have reached fever pitch. Investors have long questioned the viability of marketplaces and DTC brands. Initially pitched as technology companies, platforms like Shopify and BigCommerce streamlined the technical requirements for many go-to-market strategies. This left many investors questioning defensibility, proprietary advantages, or the value of a brand’s intellectual property – if any.  With many DTC companies raising capital with the intention of growing like software companies, it begs the question: do they understand their true value? The short answer is no.

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我不确定很多 DTC 品牌所有者是否意识到,他们正在建立的公司的估值是收入的 1 - 1.5 倍。

When venture capitalist Fred Wilson published his thoughts on the Great Public Market Reckoning, he set the stage for an important discussion on the valuations of venture-backed companies. WeWork’s 2018 revenue was $1.8 billion on $1.9 billion in losses. In August 2019, America’s finest investment banks were selling consumer investors the story that the company’s discounted cash flows (DCF) justified a $47 billion valuation at IPO.

If the product is software and thus can produce software gross margins (75% or greater), then it should be valued as a software company. If the product is something else and cannot produce software gross margins then it needs to be valued like other similar businesses with similar margins, but maybe at some premium to recognize the leverage it can get through software.

Softbank, WeWork’s latest investor, believed that the company could eventually exceed $100 billion in value. As of today, that IPO filing has been shelved indefinitely; the IPO prospectus that once valued the company at nearly $50 billion has been rescinded. WeWork is back to the drawing board and on a hunt for a healthy EBITDA, as it’s likely that a company like that will be judged by a different standard. This may be a difficult path. The coworking company maintains 20% gross margins. Until recently, the cognitive dissonance between value and valuation continued to widen.

Peloton is trading at 6x revenues, rather than the 7-8x that underwriters intended. Based on their gross margins (46%), it’s likely that the multiple will 5x. Lyft maintains a 39% gross margin; Lyft is trading at 4-5x and may eventually fall to somewhere between 3-4x. The commonality shared by Lyft, Uber, and Peloton is the software leverage that they share. Each of the three maintains a software angle that places a premium on their respective valuations.

For many DTC brands, that same leverage rarely exists. For every StitchFix, there are dozens of retailers that fall within that range. These are companies without much technical IP, if any at all. This is a gift and a curse. Shopify has streamlined many of the requirements that would have required a technical co-founder just a decade ago. It’s for this reason that tech’s multiples of revenue shouldn’t be the measure at all. Online retailers are EBITDA businesses. And it’s time that the category optimizes for improved gross margins and sustainability. This may mean less venture capital raised and slower growth over a longer time horizon.

Venture capital isn’t right for many businesses, but if you do want to raise from a VC at some point, you need to understand that often investors care more about growth than profits. They don’t want high burn rates but they will never fund slow growth. [1]

The public market’s rebuke of WeWork is just one of the latest hits to the private market’s penchant for marketing overestimated valuations. In online retail, there is a key adjustment that can be made to better position the DTC industry for exit optionality. The first of which is to learn community building from digital media publishers.

A common DTC multiple of revenue is 1.5-2x. The Steve Madden acquisition of Greats Brand was reportedly within this range. A $13 million revenue year resulted in a sale for $20-25 million. A common marketplace multiple of revenue is 2-4x, this is a company like Chewy.com or StitchFix.com. A common multiple of revenue for a commerce-first media brand is 3-7x. Glossier has been valued at over $1 billion with a revenue total ranging between $100 – $150 million. For tech companies, SaaS has a premium. In some cases, 10x revenue multiples.  For retailers, valuation multiples are influenced by organic audiences.

Linear Commerce and Revenue Multiples

1565363735634-buyables2_2Food52 is a member of a new breed of digital platform, one that combines commerce and media operations. This aids diversificaton of revenue channels while minimizing the rising costs of traditional customer acquisition. It is not easy but it can be rewarding. There are a number of publishers in this category, to include: Barstool Sports, Uncrate, Highsnobiety, Hypebeast, and Hodinkee. And remember, Glossier began as a blog called Into The Gloss.


No. 314 Linear Commerce: for the brands that are most suited to the modern retail economy, media and commerce operations combine to optimize for audience and conversion. This is the efficient path for sustained growth, retention, and profitability.

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Food52 is a ‘Version 4’ retailer. Most DTC brands maintain a ‘Version 1’ structure.

Each of these publishers attracts a niche, passionate audience. Their audiences fuel several revenue operations: affiliate marketing, display advertising, native advertising, and DTC retail. Commerce is prioritized and traditional advertising is minimized.

The deal does fit in with the direction The Chernin Group has been headed: The company, which once had plans to put together a very big internet conglomerate after acquiring an big anchor like Hulu, has instead been buying and building a stable of internet companies aimed at distinct audiences, all of which rely on revenue streams beyond internet advertising. [2]

In early September, 25 operators spanning digital media, traditional media, and commerce were seated in a Manhattan dining room. Of them were the founders of Food52, Amanda Hesser and Merrill Stubbs. The venture firm and host of the evening’s festivities let the cat out of the bag. In a surprise announcement, The Chernin Group mentioned that they were set on acquiring a majority of Food52. The room applauded the founders. It was a rare exit in an industry that has struggled to gain its footing.

TCG owns a controlling stake in MeatEater Inc., a digital media company aimed at hunters, fishermen and home cooks, and has also invested in Action Network, a sports-betting analytics startup. [3]

The attendees brushed the impromptu announcement aside and allowed the natural public relations cycle run its course. And that it did. Yesterday, a number of outlets reported the sale. Here are the numbers:

  • $83 million acquisition of the majority of the company
  • A valuation of $100 million
  • $13 million raised over four equity rounds
  • A reported 2018 revenue of $30 million (not profitable)
  • Traffic: 7 million monthly active uniques
  • Paid traffic: less than 2.5% of overall volume
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Mike Kerns, President

A Fund 1 investment by Lerer Hippeau, the Food52 acquisition was a positive outcome for investors and founders alike. It’s also a glimpse into the methods that more digital-first companies employ to improve their exit optionality. Those methods? Building brand equity, fostering community, and owning their audience. In a 2PM conversation, Mike Kerns, President of The Chernin Group, stated:

We love to invest in entrepreneurs who are building enduring brands that have engaged audiences. Food52 has built a growing commerce business with very little marketing spend. Their marketing is building their enterprise value and defensibility which is the investment in to their content and community.

Kerns continues:

For TCG we like businesses that can build businesses with their audience established versus trying to purchase the audience from someone else.

In Kerns short statement lies a bit of truth that many in the DTC space fail to recognize. The stronger the organic audience, the higher the premium on a company’s valuation. All revenue is not equal. If a retailer can earn a sale without buying an audience each time, this becomes attractive to potential investors. So why the resistance towards this approach? In short, it isn’t easy to do.

The most viable companies across the digital ecosystem will share a common trait: established, organic audiences. Content and community are core to that outcome. For the well-executed linear commerce brands, retention rates will be high and CAC will be low. The road map is there for the brands looking for a sustainable advantage and improved optionality. Perhaps, the public and private markets will reward more of them.

Read the No. 333 curation here.

报告人:Web Smith |大约 2PM

 

第 332 期:Peloton 的风险与宗教

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Today’s public markets seem to penalize the cults of personality. For an example, look no further than WeWork’s current debacle. In a sequence of events that may remind you of the ouster of Uber’s founder and CEO, WeWork also raised venture capital from Softbank and Benchmark. And the company’s board happens to be at odds with its own founder and CEO, just in time for a long-anticipated initial public offering.

It’s kind of stunning how quickly Adam Neumann has become a pariah. I have always thought the business was of questionable value. But it goes to show you how many people are ‘outcome over process.’ And the second the IPO stumbles, the knives come out.

Nick O’Brien

Two venture-backed companies with growing losses and questionable paths to profitability and only one of them looks to clear the bar to IPO. One possesses a cult of personality in Adam Nuemann, the other lords over a cult of fitness thanks to consumers like you. A notoriously fickle industry, Peloton has combatted the ebbs and flows of fitness micro-trends by recruiting and retaining top management. To Peloton, retention is the KPI.

Led by John Foley, Peloton is equal parts: quality of product, quality of programming, and quality of its users.  These users are Foley’s collective x-factor. It’s also a cohort that is more vulnerable than you’d think.

Peloton reported an impressive $915 million in total revenue for the year ending June 30, 2019, an increase of 110% from $435 million in fiscal 2018 and $218.6 million in 2017. Its losses, meanwhile, hit $245.7 million in 2019, up significantly from a reported net loss of $47.9 million last year. [1]

As Peloton nears IPO, the company has chosen to experiment with a new sales promotion. The expectation is that Peloton will bolster a few key metrics: new users, new subscriptions, and number of streams. By instituting the “30 day guarantee” found in informercial fitness products like NordicTrack and Bowflex, Peloton runs the risk of reducing lifetime value (LTV), increasing churn, and ostracizing the company’s highly motivated base by marketing to casual users and moving down market.

In the beginning, Peloton buyers were required to purchase the equipment in full. By partnering with Affirm, the consumer finance startup, the hardware / software company opened the doors to 0% financing over 36-48 months. This opened the product to middle class consumers without degrading LTV and average order value. This week, the company took one final step to reduce friction.  But while analysts laud the move as an enabler of growth, I’d argue that it may backfire.

Peloton is unlike anything that we have seen. For power users, the matte black cycle has become a source of inspiration, motivation, and even accountability. Personalities like Ally Love and Alex Toussaint have become household names. Just this summer, tennis legend Chris Evert made note of her apreciation for Ally Love during the broadcast of Tennis’ US Open. She noted that Love was “her spin instructor.” Before that moment, they’d never met in person. In my own household, I ocassionally ask my wife about her training sessions, “How was Alex, today?” She laughs every time; the running “joke” between us is that she refuses to stream another instructor.

The cult of Peloton isn’t anchored by the equipment. Rather, it’s the company’s human resources that remains the draw. And surprisingly, the company seems to be willing to manipulate it for short term growth.

IMG_0113As of the June filing of the the company’s S-1, Peloton showed over 511,000 subscibers and nearly 85 million cumulative sessions. To many users, it is an addiction of sorts. But the addiction is less a result of the physical product and more of a product of its efficacy. That takes time to materialize, much longer than a month. The hardware company’s marketing flywheel is perpetuated by the consumers who evangelize it. I’d argue that the time horizon to understand its value is closer to three months. A one month trial seems like a churn engine, not an acquisition funnel.

I’ve sold a number of colleagues on owning a Peloton of their own. This is commonplace, the S-1 suggests a high rate of word of mouth sales. In selling the product to peers, I’ve noted that the rides are painful but well worth the commitment. The hardware is beautiful and the augmented live stream is extraordinary. But it’s the sense of accomplishment and the commitment to the platform that I have found to be most valuable to the product’s brand equity. So yes, part of the lock-in stems from the commitment to ownership.

Understand the dualing strategies in the fitness industry:

  • Planet Fitness thrives on low motivation, short-term commitment, relatively minimal lock-in, and low attrition. The costs are so low, many members forget that they are still paying. This is by design. Costs are minimal because volume is key. If every member showed on the same day, there would be no space to exercise. Planet Fitness is a gym model.
  • Equinox thrives on high motivation, network effects, longer-term commitment, and low attrition. Costs are relatively expensive;  this cost prevents overcrowding and funds amenities. The network and those amenities keep customers coming back. Equinox is a club model.
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A high participation, high retention model resembling a club model.

At the height of the functional fitness craze, CrossFit’s growth was driven by high participation, efficacy, and peer-to-peer evangelism. Patrons from traditional gyms paid a premium to join one of 7,000 grungy, glorified garages and warehouses around the world. These customers were seeking a twisted enjoyment of challenging workouts (and the physical transformation that followed). But more importantly, they sought an active community. Peloton is shifting from the exclusivity of the club model to the inclusivity of the gym model. And this is where things become trickier for Peloton. The new pricing strategy conflicts with the longterm viability of its market position.

Nothing happens in a month

The 30 day trial promotion has been widely reported in publications like Bicycling Magazine and Shape.

This new offer is a clever way for the brand to give potential long-term customers a true taste of the bike experience and the wide variety of workout classes. For you, it’s a great way to try before you buy. [2]

This messaging conflicts with many of its value propositions. If I had to guess, it was likely a point of conflict within the c-suite. The company’s corporate structure is unique. It has nine members in that c-suite. Yet, a chief of marketing (CMO) is not one of them. It’s one example of an unfortunate trend in consumer retail.  After three years as PepsiCo’s senior brand manager, Carolyn Blodgett left a short stint with New York Giants organization to become Peloton’s senior marketer. As an SVP, it’s likely that she reports to the Chief Revenue Officer (Tim Shannehan) or the Chief Content Officer (Jennifer Cotter).

In this way, the lack of a singular vision may play a role in Peloton’s decision to test a trial system. While pricing incentives aren’t rare in SaaS sales or the marketing of physical goods, they do tend to be the tip of the spear for brands seeking to introduce further discounts and incentives. And they spell trouble for a company that will be largely defined by the best practices of fitness clubs and software-based network effects. Peloton will have a hard time explaining the supremacy of its product as the trial periods grow from one month to three or four. Or worse, when the $2,300 cycle that you paid for is on sale for $1,200 over the holiday season. Pricing incentives are a slippery slope.

With marketing and real estate costs eating into Peloton’s net profitability, the writing is on the wall.  The company believes that growth costs have become too expensive and with a $1.2 billion IPO in waiting, the story of efficient growth may determine the company’s viability over the next two quarters. Unfortunately, this may be a short-sighted injection of growth.

Like WeWork’s attempt to silence its cult of personality, Peloton risks weakening its cult of fitness. Only one of these seems intentional. It’s unclear whether Peloton’s management fully understands the risks involved. The company’s strength is two-pronged: its on-screen talent and its cult-like early adopters. The market may reward Peloton for leaning on new methods of influence and acquisition. However, their management won’t begin to see the unintended effects of mass adoption (and increased churn) until its marketing flywheel begins to sully.

In the unfortunate case of that happening, Peloton will become just another in-home cycle with a screen. And in that case, consumers will see a lot more of the words Peloton Infomercial 20:00 in their cable guide’s lineup. And that’s no place for a religion to be sold.

Read the No. 332 curation here.

报告人:Web Smith |大约 2PM

Additional reading: Peloton vs. Tonal (Member Research)

 

第 331 期 第一部分:电视上看到的

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在纽约市的一间私人餐厅里,坐着几十位数字媒体和零售业的高管。其中包括 Chernin Group、Cameo、Instagram、Barstool Sports、Stripe、Digiday、Seat Geek、theSkimm、Andie Swim、2PM 和 Zola 等公司。这些公司既有风险投资支持的 DTC 品牌,也有估值高达九位数的数字媒体公司。每个人都有需要解决的特定问题。我们讨论了整个行业关注的问题,包括:广告效果、利润、规模和可持续增长。

在这个夜晚,Instagram并不是宇宙的中心。至少一开始不是。从这家社交媒体巨头所处的环境来看,这实属罕见。让会场安静下来的并不是新营销技术、创新或黑客的预言。而是一则关于传统营销渠道的轶事。

安迪-库巴尼是 Ideavillage是一家控股公司,专门生产经过深入研究、极具市场潜力的 "强势品牌"。女性脱毛系统 Flawless 就是他最新成功的品牌名称。 强势品牌往往是轻资产、高增长、高利润率、生产杠杆、物流能力和可持续的竞争优势。

2018 年,他将 Flawless 卖给了 Church & Dwight以 4.5 亿美元(相当于收入的 2.5 倍)的价格卖给了 Church & Dwight。根据 2019 年 3 月的一份新闻稿,在第二年,他的公司毛利达到 1.8 亿美元,息税折旧摊销前利润率为 30%。 

为了扩大公司规模,他采用了传统的广告和促销方式。 

在平面广告、纽约市出租车广告和博客活动的支持下--再加上全面的 DRTV 宣传--Flawless 已经迅速成为 "电视上看到的"(As Seen On TV)栏目、美容和剃须刀专柜中最畅销的零售美容产品。[1]

在一间挤满了数字广告商、平台和商家的房间里,每个人都可能在问自己同一个问题:他是如何如此迅速地达到临界质量的?胡巴尼没有筹集任何外部资金,也没有分配任何绩效营销费用,却在短短两年内建立了一个价值近 5 亿美元的品牌。在 DTC 领域,绝对没有人能做到这一点。最近的一次收购是以 2000 万美元收购 Oars & Alps。他们筹集了近 700 万美元。本周,特里斯坦-沃克录制了他的 "我是如何创建公司的 "节目。他以不到 4000 万美元的价格将公司卖给了宝洁。Greats Brand以不到3000万美元的价格卖给了Steve Madden。我还可以继续说下去。

库巴尼的退出规模在 DTC 领域极为罕见。自 2007 年以来,只有不到七个 DTC 品牌的退出价格高达 4.5 亿美元。Flawless的早期盈利能力与这个行业形成了鲜明对比,在这个行业中,LTV:CAC优化是一条类似于《旧约全书》的法则。人们普遍认为,尽管缺乏利润,但现在也 要投入巨资以赢得终身客户。这种方法延长了时间跨度,提高了资本要求,但也免除了高管们早日实现规模的短期压力。我认为,LTV:CAC 优化理论充其量只是一种虚伪的理论。市场在变化,竞争在加剧,技术在进步,消费者的情绪也会随着流行文化和时代潮流而变化。


来自第 310 期:DTC 游戏手册是个陷阱

只要 DTC 品牌试图效仿前人的做法,你也应该对这个行业持怀疑态度。许多投资者似乎都在寻找一本 DTC 指南来交给他们的投资组合公司。好像在说:"这就是怎么做的。现在执行游戏计划!"但很可能永远不会是这样。当数字新贵开始在传统零售业的领地上竞争时,传统品牌应该起到提醒作用。它们拥有通往临界质量的独特道路,很少有品牌遇到 DTC 时代所寻求的可预测性。


当今的挑战者品牌似乎有两种考虑。要么为尽早退出而优化,要么在 15 年以上的时间里实现增长。风险投资通常不会强迫这两种结果。追求令人不舒服的 "两者之间",即 5-10 年的期限,可能是 DTC 流动资金问题的根源。对于该领域的许多公司来说,可以从强势品牌中学到很多东西。那些快速扩张和退出的品牌。Flawless 只是其中之一。

电视上看到的/商店里看到的

在过去的几周里,有几个数据表明,DTC玩法的时代早已过去。随着传统品牌采用技术和网络优先的发展方式,许多传统品牌扩大了自己公司与挑战者产品之间的优势,争夺相同的货架空间。

电子商务是一项极具挑战性、经常无利可图的业务。这也没有考虑到消费者仍然非常希望亲身接触品牌、产品和人。

安迪-邓恩

在Yotpo副总裁拉吉-尼杰尔(Raj Nijjer)的一份有趣的分析报告中,这位零售业高管提出了一些令人惊讶的指标[2]:丝涟床垫 2018 年直接面向消费者的销售额超过了 Casper 的总收入,尽管 Casper 占据了在线零售广告和消费者聊天的心智份额。他还指出,Madewell:一个主要由实体房地产、传统广告和传统宣传册驱动的品牌,将通过在线零售渠道实现 5.34 亿美元的销售额。

[邓恩]说,就 Bonobos 而言,该品牌目前 "最赚钱的业务 "是与 Nordstrom 的合作。Bonobos 现在还拥有 66 家被称为 "指南商店 "的实体店。[3]

库巴尼详细介绍了他是如何将Flawless打造成为一个相对强大的公司的,他明确指出,DTC时代的部分问题在于无法真正促成购买。简而言之,很少有 DTC 高管知道如何进行真正的销售。许多人依赖于肤浅的印象作为衡量标准,而不是当管理者把目标锁定在消费者的眼球之外时所发现的深度。

我不太喜欢数字原生的垂直品牌。让我感到兴奋的是那些真正强大的、直接面向消费者的品牌,同时还拥有全方位的品牌。

安迪-邓恩

他认为自己已经掌握了一门科学。很难说他错了。当典型的 DTC 品牌或数字媒体运营商想到 "定位 "一词时,就会产生一种现代感。"电视广告不如 Facebook 和 Instagram 的量化能力",这是典型的媒体机构创始人常说的一句话。库巴尼建议,品牌管理者应该重新考虑 "定位 "的定义。虽然电视广告支持更广泛的触达方式,但它针对的是不同部分的消费者。

屏幕截图 2019-09-16 at 3.32.01 PMInstagram 或 Facebook 广告的一贯做法是吸引眼球。我们访问应用程序是为了无意识地消费图片。离开应用程序后,我们很少会仔细回想所看到的内容。我们不会在推特上谈论它,也很少谈论它。这些有针对性的内嵌广告都是经过精心设计的印象。它们是通过捕捉消费者的视线引发心理思考的视觉效果--哪怕只有一秒钟。这就是为什么你会看到滚动的.gif优惠券代码、价格优惠图表或标有面料品质的照片。在社交网络上,品牌广告往往是一门科学,而不是艺术。品牌经理们通过价格和比较的逻辑来促成销售。电视则不同。它激发人的内心。当我们观看自己喜爱的节目时,我们会通过社交渠道谈论并传播消费的快乐。

在这个夜晚,Instagram并不是宇宙的中心。至少一开始不是。

正如上传到 Instagram 或 Twitter 的实体广告牌会成为社交广告一样,我们在电视上发现的消费品也会通过社交和分销渠道加速增长。众所周知,那些粗制滥造的 "所见即所得 "广告能够很好地吸引消费者购买,以至于商店专门为这类产品开辟了过道。但在这个时代,像 Flawless 这样的品牌所能获得的好处更大。在电视的助推下,早期的吸引力往往会带来更广泛的实体和网络销售。这将使联盟交易、社会影响者的参与和赚取的媒体收入得以延续。对于许多品牌来说,这些都是 DTC 营销牵引力的关键绩效指标。

两个安迪邓恩和库巴尼

据传,在2018年这1.8亿元的销售额中,《无懈可击》支付的传统广告费用不到200万元。4.5亿美元的退出+奖励,广告回报的规模和速度显然非同一般。但令人惊讶的是,这并不是关键的收获。

随着 DTC 品牌销售能力的提高,它们的广告宣传将更像最初的直销品牌,那些通过电视吸引消费者的品牌。这些品牌通过电话、电脑或沃尔玛或 Target 的独特购物通道进行蛊惑销售。

该报告综合了代表52个不同类别的125个顶级DTC品牌的信息,发现纳入研究的DTC品牌2018年的电视广告支出比2017年增加了60%,去年的电视广告支出总额为38亿美元。 [4]

消费者将看到更多像Away这样的品牌的电视广告 但对于某些类别的产品来说,制作风格将品牌声明转向只有在电视上才能看到的长篇销售风格。新时代的零售商将很难像营销主管那样,以长篇幅的方式使用电视。传统的电视观众可能不适合许多新品牌或其产品。

但是,对于某些类别而言,营销和分销战略将继续朝着这个方向发展。这些策略将包括那些卖力推销的信息广告中的许多线索。 对于那些希望采用更多商家基因的品牌来说,有一些新的工具可以使用。随着电视、广告牌和类似 QVC 的平台上出现更多的 DTC 品牌,这些销售策略也将进入数字优先平台。

这样看来,安迪-胡巴尼的想法很有先见之明。直销行业通常通过两种媒体风格来吸引消费者:(1)崇高的品牌宣言或(2)优惠券代码价值主张。推动 Flawless 从 0 美元飙升至 1.8 亿美元的广告风格是这两种风格的结合,旨在让潜在客户从发现、吸引、转化到传播。正如安迪-邓恩(Andy Dunn)所指出的,数字原生品牌如果不采取全渠道的增长方式,将继续举步维艰。

品牌正在利用传统的零售感觉,在第三年实现 5 亿美元的退出。即将上市的 J. Crew 旗下自有品牌 Madewell 的 DTC 收入接近 5.34 亿美元。沃尔玛建立自己的品牌,而不是收购数字原生品牌。DNVB "一词的教父指出,作为数字原生代现在是一个不利因素。

在接下来的几个月里,DTC 品牌将围绕上述电视广告风格展开活动。它们将在 Instagram 等平台上进行测试,广告将俏皮地模仿其节奏和语调。他们将在更新的平台上建立流程,量身定制,以实现有效的扩展性和参与度。两位安迪似乎都在倡导类似的最佳实践。到 2018 年,网络第一品牌常用的云技术已被传统零售商广泛采用。挑战者品牌要想重新获得竞争优势,就应该借鉴老牌零售商行之有效的广告和分销策略。然后,他们应该把这些策略变成自己的策略。

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报告人:Web Smith |关于2PM