Polymathic Audio No. 2: David Perell

 

The shift from mass media to individual media. When I first met then-23 year old David Perell, he was on the hunt for a new career. He’d just left the famed Cycle Media after eight months. With around 1,000 followers on Twitter and just 31 subscribers on Youtube, his audience lacked scale and engagement. But the entrepreneur knew that he wanted to pursue an online retail opportunity.

Over the next two years, he’d become one of the most prolific producers of quality content on the internet. It’s 2019 and he’s on a tear. His content has achieved a compounding level of success. He’s interviewed dozens of the most notable names across business, medicine, and academia. And Write of Passage, the company began by Perell, now boasts over 220 students in 28 countries.  The community builder has nearly 33,000 Twitter followers and his blogs are commonly read by over 50,000 people per post. His theories are simple and the foundation of them all begins with an observation that he’s noted:

You’ll transform from a passive consumer to an active creator, and escape the “Mediocre Majority” of people who endlessly consume without ever producing. The content you produce will become an asset that you own. It will work for you 24/7, and become a magnet for like-minded people, interesting ideas, and career opportunities.

Perell has identified an arbitrage opportunity for brands, retailers, and individuals in content production. According to the writer, speaker, and teacher: “the internet is overwhelmed by content consumers and short on producers.” To change the calculus for you or your company, Perell suggests shifting the strategy: produce content. And produce it prolifically.

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Kylie Jenner recap. 1/ Used her own capital2/ Hired six people3/ Paid close to zero in ads4/ Leveraged media trends5/ Leveraged supply partners6/ Built a $1.2b brand 7/ Now $600 million richer8/ And she did it in five yearsThe above isn’t the result of fame alone.

One of the capstone moments of the episode is our Kylie Jenner acquisition discussion. This tweet generated quite a bit of disdain, I must admit. But the spirit of the message was: build an audience and you have a distinct advantage. Perell and I share the belief that while none of us are Kardashian’s (yet), anyone can build a powerfully engaged audience. In addition to Jenner, we discuss Joe Rogan’s operation and revenues. But then we do something very important – we take a step back. We talk about practitioners without mega-famous families. We hone in on those who’ve built sizable audiences and communities without the force multiplier of fame. One thing that we’ve found in common, generalists to tend to thrive in that respect. From Gary Vaynerchuk to Casey Neistat – both future guests – they champion their broad experiences and insights.

The Trend Toward Specialization

The trend toward specialization has opened the door to generalists. Perell falls into that category. His broad education influences his understanding of life’s many verticals. As such, the conversation between us was natural and free-flowing. When I first met Perell, I didn’t know much about him. I did recognize his ambition and desire for mastery. Today, the 25 year old is beginning to realize the fruits of that ambition.

He’s a bonafide world-shaker. He’s not an influencer in the traditional sense. Rather, he influences those who influence the influencers. From Naval Ravikant to Tren Griffin to Keith Rabois to James Clear to Scott Belsky to Erika Nardini to Seth Godin – he’s a trusted source of thought and practicality. I believe that Episode No. 2 can change things for those who take the time to listen.

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Ep. 002: David Perell

Ep. 002: David Perell

Polymathic: Episode No. 2 (1 hr and 9 mins): Listen, learn, but most importantly enjoy.

Read David’s Work:

(1) The Amazon Arbitrage

(2) The Pivot to Owned Commerce

(3) The Customer Acquisition Pricing Parade


AUDIO BY WEB SMITH AND DAVID PERELL
CO-PRODUCED BY VINCENZO LANDINO AND WEB SMITH
EDITED BY VINCENZO LANDINO 
ENGINEERING BY VINCENZO LANDINO AND ANDREW JOHNSON 
POLYMATHIC AUDIO IS A PRODUCT OF 2PM INC. 

Polymathic Audio No. 1: John Lowe

John Lowe is the CEO of Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams. The native of Chicago’s far south side, Lowe has had a varied life full of culture, academic pursuits, and professional development. He earned a degree in political science from University of Illinois in 1995. He then earned a law degree from The Ohio State University in 1998, going on to serve as an attorney at the prestigious firm of Kegler Brown Hill & Ritter for nine years.

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Jeni (l) and John Lowe (r)

While at Kegler, he helped to incorporate Jeni’s Ice Creams on behalf of founder Jeni Britton Bauer and her husband Charly. He’d later serve as labor and employment counsel to General Electric’s aviation, transportation, and water businesses. This is where things get a bit shifty. Lowe was then tapped to be General Counsel for a small company within GE, somehow leapfrogging hundreds of more experienced and longer-serving GE lawyers. Then during the tumult of the financial crisis, Lowe’s career really took off.

After six years, Lowe left General Electric to join Jeni’s when it was still in its infancy. Then just four scoop shops with no third-party distribution, Jeni’s now lords over close to forty scoop shops and a distribution in over 3,000 grocery stores. Their DTC processes are unlike any other. Each shipment stays chilled with the help of carefully packed dry ice and an unboxing experience that’s second to none. He’s been the CEO for ten years, now. He also serves as a board member with Watershed Distillery, White Castle and the Columbus chapter of Conscious Capitalism International. An avid writer, lover of basketball, father of three, and husband to a titan in her own right.

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John Lowe, front and center in Ohio.

Lowe has a special partnership with the founder and face of the company. One of the special moments of the podcast is when he explains how they work together and which public figures are most analogous to their proverbial one-two punch. But all in all, it’s his candor that comes across.

There is an honesty, a truth, and a vulnerability that comes across in this 56 minute discussion. In it, I feel like a student asking the teacher for the way forward. And in a digital-first industry filled with strategists and talkers, Lowe is an operator in the truest sense of the term. How and what he’s had to navigate to take the company from a lifestyle business to a private equity-backed growth company is worth your time.

Jeni’s is a household name. Jeni is a larger than life creative mind and force of nature. John is as much an ingredient in the success as the brand’s salty caramel. I’m proud to call him a friend and mentor, inside and outside of the workspace. You’ll be able to hear the admiration in my voice.

Download: 

Ep. 001: John Lowe

Ep. 001: John Lowe

 

Additional Reading

The Ringer: Love is not a battlefield and neither is Jeni’s

The Week: Joe Biden spent $3,800 on ice cream for donors

Pitchfork: Tyler, the Creator unveils signature ice cream flavor

Forbes: Why brands like Jeni’s are leaning into branded merchandise


Audio by Web Smith and John Lowe
Co-produced by Vincenzo Landino and Web Smith
Edited by Blake Guidry and Vincenzo Landino 
Engineering by Vincenzo Landino and Andrew Johnson 
Polymathic Audio is a product of 2PM Inc.